Comments on: A Fat Full Fall: Dairy fats – What’s the Moo? http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/ Balancing God's Gifts...One Baby Step at a Time Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:49:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tim http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-240405 Tim Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:15:21 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-240405 Want to know where any milk (in the US) or dairy product comes from? Go to: http://whereismymilkfrom.com/ and type in the xx-xxxx code from the carton. It's surprising how many store brands actually come from a local dairy! Want to know where any milk (in the US) or dairy product comes from? Go to: http://whereismymilkfrom.com/ and type in the xx-xxxx code from the carton. It’s surprising how many store brands actually come from a local dairy!

]]> By: Somethings via Facebook http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-154583 Somethings via Facebook Mon, 03 Oct 2011 06:03:55 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-154583 Yes we do! We have 2 dairy goats and make as much of our dairy products as possible with whole milk! Yes we do! We have 2 dairy goats and make as much of our dairy products as possible with whole milk!

]]> By: Kelly the Kitchen Kop http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-146035 Kelly the Kitchen Kop Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:12:37 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-146035 Lauren, have you looked into the GAPS Diet? Kelly Lauren, have you looked into the GAPS Diet?
Kelly

]]> By: Katie http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-145853 Katie Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:02:49 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-145853 Lauren, My husband also has an auto-immune disease (Crohn's), and if I know one thing about them, it's that everyone reacts differently. He clearly reacts to gluten, but we don't think dairy is a problem. Soooo...an elimination diet for yourself is the only way to tell if your system rejects something. Actually, omega-6 fats cause inflammation, like soybean and corn oils (in everything!). Omega 3s fight it. Saturated fats aren't really pegged in either direction, I don't think, on inflammation in particular. I don't think the dairy fat will get ya more than the casein or lactose in dairy, so if dairy bugs you, it's probably time to cut it rather than go skim. I don't know that you'd get a lot out of milk with just skim - can you do yogurt? If you make homemade, you can incubate longer which gets most of the lactose out (said to be all by 24 hours). Let me know if you have any more questions, since auto-immune diseases and inflammation are definitely a subject I'm interested in! :) Katie Lauren,
My husband also has an auto-immune disease (Crohn’s), and if I know one thing about them, it’s that everyone reacts differently. He clearly reacts to gluten, but we don’t think dairy is a problem. Soooo…an elimination diet for yourself is the only way to tell if your system rejects something. Actually, omega-6 fats cause inflammation, like soybean and corn oils (in everything!). Omega 3s fight it. Saturated fats aren’t really pegged in either direction, I don’t think, on inflammation in particular.

I don’t think the dairy fat will get ya more than the casein or lactose in dairy, so if dairy bugs you, it’s probably time to cut it rather than go skim. I don’t know that you’d get a lot out of milk with just skim – can you do yogurt? If you make homemade, you can incubate longer which gets most of the lactose out (said to be all by 24 hours).

Let me know if you have any more questions, since auto-immune diseases and inflammation are definitely a subject I’m interested in! :) Katie

]]> By: Lauren http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-145814 Lauren Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:51:00 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-145814 Good discussion. I'm all for full fat dairy, but I also have an auto immune disease and have heard that dairy fat and red meats, etc. can all cause inflammation. What do you know about this? Are there cases where low fat dairy would be worth it for some people, but not for most? Or is it just bad enough to stay away from regardless (keep drinking whole milk)? Good discussion. I’m all for full fat dairy, but I also have an auto immune disease and have heard that dairy fat and red meats, etc. can all cause inflammation. What do you know about this? Are there cases where low fat dairy would be worth it for some people, but not for most? Or is it just bad enough to stay away from regardless (keep drinking whole milk)?

]]> By: Full Fat For Health: Revolting Against the Low-Fat Craze | Write On, Jana! http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-139728 Full Fat For Health: Revolting Against the Low-Fat Craze | Write On, Jana! Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:49:52 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-139728 [...] whole foods diet. However, replacing the nutrient-rich fats from traditional foods (including full-fat dairy, coconut oil and real meat) with oils high in omega-6 fatty acids, low-fat protein alternatives [...] [...] whole foods diet. However, replacing the nutrient-rich fats from traditional foods (including full-fat dairy, coconut oil and real meat) with oils high in omega-6 fatty acids, low-fat protein alternatives [...]

]]> By: Katie http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-127002 Katie Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:40:53 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-127002 Mesishi, Looks like Kelly was subscribed to this post and caught your questions before me, and she's right - soy has many health risks (phyto-estrogens high among them on my list) when not fermented. I don't know if there's a way to make the homemade soy milk fermented (and still enjoy drinking it), but personally, that would be the only way I'd go for it. ??? It's too bad that you only have access to high-temp pasteurized milk. Perhaps no milk or coconut milk would be two other options? Also, before you go insane or start throwing things out the window...I know how you feel. Just take it one thing at a time, and rest in the fact that your eating is one step healthier than the day before. If you need to keep having soy milk to feel some sense of normalcy, do it for a while as you read more about it and make other important changes as well. Can you find real butter where you are? That's a nice easy, tasty change to make if you're using soy products on toast and things as well. Yum! Glad to have you here!!! :) Katie Mesishi,
Looks like Kelly was subscribed to this post and caught your questions before me, and she’s right – soy has many health risks (phyto-estrogens high among them on my list) when not fermented. I don’t know if there’s a way to make the homemade soy milk fermented (and still enjoy drinking it), but personally, that would be the only way I’d go for it. ???

It’s too bad that you only have access to high-temp pasteurized milk. Perhaps no milk or coconut milk would be two other options?

Also, before you go insane or start throwing things out the window…I know how you feel. Just take it one thing at a time, and rest in the fact that your eating is one step healthier than the day before. If you need to keep having soy milk to feel some sense of normalcy, do it for a while as you read more about it and make other important changes as well. Can you find real butter where you are? That’s a nice easy, tasty change to make if you’re using soy products on toast and things as well. Yum!

Glad to have you here!!! :) Katie

]]> By: mesishi http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-126937 mesishi Mon, 01 Aug 2011 05:36:27 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-126937 The bad thing is that after a visit to the supermarket today I've found ALL milk are UHT so from what I've read it does not seems like he or me will get much of it (living abroad=less options). Anyway I will take a look at your blog and keep checking to know more about this. Thanks for folowing up ;) The bad thing is that after a visit to the supermarket today I’ve found ALL milk are UHT so from what I’ve read it does not seems like he or me will get much of it (living abroad=less options). Anyway I will take a look at your blog and keep checking to know more about this. Thanks for folowing up ;)

]]> By: Kelly the Kitchen Kop http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-126883 Kelly the Kitchen Kop Mon, 01 Aug 2011 00:46:11 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-126883 But even if you DO go through that to make it yourself (which most people don't and they buy the stuff from the store which also has other weird ingredients and is super processed), that still leaves the fact that soy itself isn't good for us. I have many posts on my site that talk about it and Katie most likely has some here, too. Or just a Google search will work! :) Once you do the research, if you still choose to drink soy, why not just get the whole milk for your hubs? Kelly But even if you DO go through that to make it yourself (which most people don’t and they buy the stuff from the store which also has other weird ingredients and is super processed), that still leaves the fact that soy itself isn’t good for us.

I have many posts on my site that talk about it and Katie most likely has some here, too. Or just a Google search will work! :)

Once you do the research, if you still choose to drink soy, why not just get the whole milk for your hubs?

Kelly

]]> By: mesishi http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/13/a-fat-full-fall-dairy-fats-%e2%80%93-what%e2%80%99s-the-moo/comment-page-1/#comment-126831 mesishi Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:40:24 +0000 http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/?p=3041#comment-126831 Thank you Kelly for your reply! The only thing that still keeps me doubting is that I find the process to get soy milk pretty 'simple': soak soy beans for several hours and then blend it and pour it. Boil it and let it freshen! So, I am still between homemade soy milk vs. whole milk (swear my husband would prefer the second one ;). Thanks a lot for replying ;) Thank you Kelly for your reply! The only thing that still keeps me doubting is that I find the process to get soy milk pretty ‘simple’: soak soy beans for several hours and then blend it and pour it. Boil it and let it freshen!

So, I am still between homemade soy milk vs. whole milk (swear my husband would prefer the second one ;) .

Thanks a lot for replying ;)

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