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		<title>By: Penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, cows are ruminants and as such have the 4 stomach thing going on to digest &quot;woody brush&quot; more so than just grass. At least that&#039;s what I had read and that&#039;s why cows actually do very poorly on grains that have high carbohydrate contents and can get something called &quot;feed lot bloat&quot; (sounds uncomfortable) when they are fed a lot of grains. 

Just my FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, cows are ruminants and as such have the 4 stomach thing going on to digest &#8220;woody brush&#8221; more so than just grass. At least that&#8217;s what I had read and that&#8217;s why cows actually do very poorly on grains that have high carbohydrate contents and can get something called &#8220;feed lot bloat&#8221; (sounds uncomfortable) when they are fed a lot of grains. </p>
<p>Just my FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Food Face-Off 10: ME! Hallee the Homemaker vs. Mare at Just Making Noise &#124; Hallee The Homemaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Food Face-Off 10: ME! Hallee the Homemaker vs. Mare at Just Making Noise &#124; Hallee The Homemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Face-Off two: Rachel at Titus 2 Homemaker vs. Wardeh at GNOWFGLINS [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Real Food Face-Off 5: Cheeseslave vs. Sarah’s Musings &#124; Hallee The Homemaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Food Face-Off 5: Cheeseslave vs. Sarah’s Musings &#124; Hallee The Homemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonya, your additional questions:

I believe I answered one of your questions already (about whether or not the Bible addresses grain feeding) when I said:

&quot;He will also help us stick to His design – and no one needs a science degree to do that – just eyes to observe the natural world and follow the patterns He put in place.&quot;

Like Katie said, the Bible doesn&#039;t say one way or the other. But creation cries out the answer! Cattle may eat a few grains here and there from the wild, late in the grass season, but primarily they live on pasture.

You asked, &quot;What exactly do you think your average american conventionally farmed dairy cow or beef cow is eating on a daily basis?&quot;

Early in life, they eat on pasture. Then they go to a feedlot and fatten up on grain.

The point is less whether they eat grain or not, but more how much grain they eat. No, the Bible does not specify the amount, or speak on the subject in a direct way at all. Still, let&#039;s not close our eyes to the fact that corn-fed cows are a modern invention. Cows did not eat corn (unless a bit of it in the wild) until we stepped in with our modern farming methods.

For the record, I am not against modern inventions like the internet or cell phones. But those you brought up are matters of convenience and pleasure, not having much bearing on the health of a living organism. But please don&#039;t take what I said too far - people can abuse modern technology, too.
.-= Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/gnowfglins/~3/EUC67VLRQoI/&quot;&gt;RFQM: Salad Bar Beef&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonya, your additional questions:</p>
<p>I believe I answered one of your questions already (about whether or not the Bible addresses grain feeding) when I said:</p>
<p>&#8220;He will also help us stick to His design – and no one needs a science degree to do that – just eyes to observe the natural world and follow the patterns He put in place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like Katie said, the Bible doesn&#8217;t say one way or the other. But creation cries out the answer! Cattle may eat a few grains here and there from the wild, late in the grass season, but primarily they live on pasture.</p>
<p>You asked, &#8220;What exactly do you think your average american conventionally farmed dairy cow or beef cow is eating on a daily basis?&#8221;</p>
<p>Early in life, they eat on pasture. Then they go to a feedlot and fatten up on grain.</p>
<p>The point is less whether they eat grain or not, but more how much grain they eat. No, the Bible does not specify the amount, or speak on the subject in a direct way at all. Still, let&#8217;s not close our eyes to the fact that corn-fed cows are a modern invention. Cows did not eat corn (unless a bit of it in the wild) until we stepped in with our modern farming methods.</p>
<p>For the record, I am not against modern inventions like the internet or cell phones. But those you brought up are matters of convenience and pleasure, not having much bearing on the health of a living organism. But please don&#8217;t take what I said too far &#8211; people can abuse modern technology, too.<br />
.-= Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/gnowfglins/~3/EUC67VLRQoI/">RFQM: Salad Bar Beef</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No direct instructions, but implied for certain.  Implied in our/their very bodies.  Stomachs made to digest grasses = cows should eat grass.  Human bodies made to be one and procreate = we should.  JPII&#039;s Theology of the body...for cows!  Maybe that&#039;s stretching it, but that&#039;s what we mean.  God created certain animals to BE certain ways, and we want to work with that, not around it.  :) Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No direct instructions, but implied for certain.  Implied in our/their very bodies.  Stomachs made to digest grasses = cows should eat grass.  Human bodies made to be one and procreate = we should.  JPII&#8217;s Theology of the body&#8230;for cows!  Maybe that&#8217;s stretching it, but that&#8217;s what we mean.  God created certain animals to BE certain ways, and we want to work with that, not around it.  <img src='http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Katie</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Audrey Go!  Baby steps are the way to go - glad you enjoyed the face-off!  :) Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Audrey Go!  Baby steps are the way to go &#8211; glad you enjoyed the face-off!  <img src='http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Katie</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey Harlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audrey Harlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt like I was sitting around the table with you both!  Very cool &quot;face off&quot; ladies:)
I have taken about 200 baby steps toward healthier living, still at best I am an &quot;aspiring&quot; health enthusiast...I  going to kep pushing myself a little at a time...thanks for the inspiration:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt like I was sitting around the table with you both!  Very cool &#8220;face off&#8221; ladies:)<br />
I have taken about 200 baby steps toward healthier living, still at best I am an &#8220;aspiring&#8221; health enthusiast&#8230;I  going to kep pushing myself a little at a time&#8230;thanks for the inspiration:)</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great idea.  It&#039;s really nice to get to know more about where people are coming from.  I like the Q&amp;A format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea.  It&#8217;s really nice to get to know more about where people are coming from.  I like the Q&amp;A format.</p>
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		<title>By: tonya</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s no instructions, direct or implied, from God on how cattle should be fed or raised, why does a segment of the real food crowd refer animals being raised &amp; eating what God intended?

for the record, cow comfort is a biggie.  mattresses, foot baths, insect control, biosecurity measures, climate control, &amp; back scratchers are some common findings on farms.
.-= tonya&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/rcwant2be/statuses/8240807966&quot;&gt;rcwant2be: I&#039;m listening to &quot;Take Me There&quot; by Rascal Flatts #pandora&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s no instructions, direct or implied, from God on how cattle should be fed or raised, why does a segment of the real food crowd refer animals being raised &amp; eating what God intended?</p>
<p>for the record, cow comfort is a biggie.  mattresses, foot baths, insect control, biosecurity measures, climate control, &amp; back scratchers are some common findings on farms.<br />
.-= tonya&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://twitter.com/rcwant2be/statuses/8240807966">rcwant2be: I&#8217;m listening to &quot;Take Me There&quot; by Rascal Flatts #pandora</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela,
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.culturesforhealth.com/&quot;&gt;Cultures for Health&lt;/a&gt; sells grains and Jenny at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nourishedkitchen.com&quot;&gt;The Nourished Kitchen&lt;/a&gt; hosts a free swap site.  Hope that helps! :) Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela,<br />
<a href="https://www.culturesforhealth.com/">Cultures for Health</a> sells grains and Jenny at <a href="http://www.nourishedkitchen.com">The Nourished Kitchen</a> hosts a free swap site.  Hope that helps! <img src='http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Katie</p>
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